I had me a place in Innellaen so I could get away from the ship now and then. They busted our butts on the tug, but the liberty time was good.My two years - 1974-1975 - on the Navy tugboat USS Saugus allowed me the ability to travel far and wide. Went into Glasgow. Scotland is truly beautiful place and the people are outstanding. Osteological examination of the remains . The holiday home has 2 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, bed linen, towels, a flat-screen TV, a dining . Holy Loch Lodge offers accommodation in Hunters Quay, 7.5 miles from Blairmore and Strone Golf Glub. They were married on the USS Holyloch on 12/3/76. Thanks for writing.Paul, Myself and a couple other members of our Holy Loch American Veterans Association living here in Scotland are working with other organisations toward establishing a permanent American Heritage Centre here in the Dunoon area. Although there do not appear to be any other instances of Lazaretto being used in the UK, the name can be found on a number of similar locations around the world. Thanks for all you did. The forthcoming expansion in the number of people based at Faslane and Coulport, as HM Naval Base Clyde becomes home to the Navy's entire submarine fleet, is expected to see millions of pounds of investment in Helensburgh and its surrounding communities. Delightful country!! Don't wait to give a tax-deductible donation that helps our nation's heroes! Linda,You should be proud of your father's service. It's a very special place, and I'm grateful for having had the opportunity Paul. I really wish we would have known each other. (I can't recall the name). It is a subsidy. The Holy Loch (Scottish Gaelic "An Loch Sianta/Seunta") is a sea loch in Argyll and Bute, Scotland. Site 1 Holy Loch Reunion. If you would like more information about the National Association of American Veterans, Inc. and the services we provide, please use the contact Form and Information below. Manage your policy online, file claims for benefits, and access helpful resources. In the autumn of 1959 the US Assistant Registrar of Academic Services. I remember when we had liberty we would go to officers club which was right opposite the Pierre that took us to the ship. This marked the beginning over 30 years of almost continuous service on the waters of the Clyde, during which the Los Alamos completed over 2,800 submarine docking operations. The guy was a fellow South Philly guy who worked a the Navy Yard and was TDY to Holy Loch.Thanks for checking in.Paul. On board HMS Exmouth which was based round the corner at Faslane, we co ordinated the operation to keep the berth clear. The area offered deep, sheltered access, and had already seen service during World War II, as a Royal Navy submarine base. In Kilmun the 19th century church stands on a site where earlier ones are believed to date to the 6th or 7th Century. Sandbank was more of an area, Dunoon was the closest town. Their financial impact on the town was not as great as many people thought. google_ad_width = 120; I served on the USS Hunley AS-31 in 1985 and 1986. Jesse J. Pitt MDI served on the USS Sam Rayburn submarine during the cold war & was the last physician stationed on a nuclear sub. Scotland is scenic. We lived in Dunoon and I started school there. We went back some time later when SSBN USS Job Patrick Henry was the first sub to arrive. At Holy Loch Inn, you may order tasty biscuits. Thank you for sharing your photos and memories of Holy Loch, a duty station that I coveted but to which I never could receive orders; I came close to going to Edzell, Scotland, during my early career as a CT but went instead to GITMO (68-69). Also spent several days ported at Greenock. On April 2, 1987, the USS Mariano G Vallejo (SSBN 658), completed the 2,500th Ballistic Missile Deterrent Patrol to be carried out by the submarine fleet. I nicked named Scotland land of the liquid sunshine. Tighnabruaich is a name that brings back fond memories, as a shipmate of mine rented a flat there in 1974 and I lived with him for a few months until his wife came over from the states. Always wanted to go back to visit to see who was still living there. I just got back from a 2 week UK tour and part of the trip included a journey back to Dunoon/Holy Loch and after 30+ years, it has not changed much, but my perspective about the place certainly has. Believe it or not I was stationed on the NATICK (YTB 760) between July of 1974 thru Dec of 1975. :), Jim,I too have fond memories of Scotland and the people. they are my sisters. Kilmun Parish Church and Argyll Mausoleum is said to stand where Saint Munn's church was once located. I was stationed on The Holland AS32 in HolyLoch fro 1978 to 1981. He had a house in Dunoon. For one of those days I joined a one day tour of the Scottish Highlandslovely. to base a refit facility and it was decided in July 1960 that Holy Loch should Well I was a junior electrical merchant so I didn't actually do much in the way of Co ordination. Jon Elkins, hi anon, I am trying to trace an American couple based there in 1969, they provisionally adopted 2 girls from Glasgow social works dept in 71 and promptly took them to America.would you know of any of the americans were doing this. Now live in Missoula, Montana (Scotland in Western Montana).Jesse Tropical Missoula, MontanaScotland in Western Montana. Following an approach to the British government, requesting permission to establish a refit site in the United Kingdom for Fleet Ballistic Missile (FBM) submarines, an agreement was negotiated which permitted the US to use the Holy Loch, on the Firth of Clyde, for the anchorage of a submarine tender, a large dry dock, and other supporting craft. TheScottish winters are cold and rainy, butScotland isquite beautiful in the summer. If anyone was a kind and bright light in Dunoon it was Anselmo Mario Franceschi. To make maximum usage of its submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM) deterrent force, American military had determined that it required an overseas base for refit and crew turnover. (267) 341-3228. However, the British authorities pointed out that this was a Saturday, and the ship's arrival at the weekend would allow a large number of protesters and demonstrators to travel to Dunoon, and persuaded the Americans to bring the arrival forward by one day, to Friday, March 3. to live there and meet so many wonderful people. Initially HMS Titania was the depot ship alongside which the submarines moored and at the end of 1941 she was replaced by HMS Forth. You can read his full bio by clicking on the above photo. xx. So many fond memories of the Scottish people, they are amazing. A letter sent by Sir Michael Cary, a senior civil servant at the MoD, to the Foreign and Commonwealth Office on 31 January 1968 states: A short while ago Maurice Foley, the Navys under secretary of state, accompanied the commander in chief of the US Navy in Europe on a brief visit to Holy Loch and spent a few hours aboard the USS Simon Lake. Although I'm a city guy, I enjoyed my stay in Tighnabruaich. Great times. I thought I would never eat seafood again. I have been trying to track him down for some years, if anyone can help I would be very grateful, my name is jeannie. Flemming, Glenn Francis. We used to dance in the Harmony pub and I would give anything for fish and chips from Elselmos chippy on church street, thanxcathy. Michael Ridpath's new book "Launch Code" is about a nuclear sub based at the Holy Loch which almost started a nuclear war thanks to erroneous instructions being sent to it. Jim,A cruise around the UK sounds interesting. JB, Good to hear from another Holy Loch vet. The 1943 film We Dive at Dawn, starring John Mills, was filmed in the area, including scenes shot at a number of sites including HMS Forth and and Ardnadam Pier. In January '82 the Holland was relieved by Hunley, returning for a 2nd tour. I was there from 83-85 on the Hunley and yes great times at 18. I was born Greennock ,Scotland 1962. His 'On Crime' column appears in the Washington Times and his 'Crime Beat' column appears here. What a beautiful country and great people! We will be on stand 1635. This message board is for former shipmates of CSS-14 who would like to discuss having a reunion or discuss how a recent reunion went . The submarines received supplies,maintenance andrepairs at the floating Navy base. You have done a very good thing in creating this site and im glad to have found it.it really made my day. Natick 760 as a cook from 1975 to 1977 Loved all my time there. From this the word 'quarantine' was derived.". Americans became active participants in many community related events. served on board the Canopus AS34 from 73 to 75spent most of my entire duration taking care of the small boats and left my final duty as duty boat electrician IC3 Bishopif you went over to the beach via small boat, then you definitely passed by me. He wrote back, stating: The present time, with the Vietnam controversy heightened by the current Vietcong offensive and a consequent increase in criticism in Britain of American policies, hardly seems propitious for advising the Queen Mother to make a gesture of this kind. Of all the places we lived, or visited growing up, Dunoon was the best and always say I am going to return. Jesse,Thanks for your service and thanks for writing.Paul. Had wonderful shipmates and made lots of civilian friends during my "liberty" timeRaquetball, softball, bowling, hiking, several pub-crawlslife was always interesting:) Thanks for the memories Paul.John WalshHenrico, VA, John,Thanks. Dennis, We were there at the same time. As a student of history, and being Scot-Welsh on my father's side, I enjoyed visiting the many historical sites in Scotland. The Holy Loch American Veterans Association collected 300 towards the work, which was presented to the Sandbank Community Development Trust, to be used as part-payment of the 500 restoration cost associated with the lamp mounted on the stone pillar west of the main monument. Went back to Scotland for the first time this past summer both the people in Gourock and Dunoon were absolutely the best, brought back many memories. Below is a photo of me as a young man in "civies" on a Scottish street, circa 1974. Just read and enjoyed all the articles people wrote about the Holy Loch. I didn't know the man. VABenefits@holyfamily.edu. Sadly its never recovered from the US Navy leaving.im pretty sure everyone would love them back.Anyway I just wanted to say,am eating Fish & chips fromAnselmos Chippy right now! the end of the Cold War it was announced on 6 February 1991 that the Holy Loch Specialties: American Veterans Care Association's goals are to create and promote a supportive system of care long denied to American and Native American Veterans after their absence in civilian life due to the demands of having served under the United States Armed Forces. Thanks for writing. . During World War II, the Holy loch was used as submarine base. In January 2014, declassified state documents opened and placed in the National Archives at Kew, revealed that the MoD had supported proposals which could have seen a royal visit take place at the American base: THE Queen Mother was banned from visiting an American nuclear base in Scotland, newly released files have revealed. Submarine Squadron 14, headquartered aboard the serving submarine tender, arrived in the Holy Loch on 3 March 1961, Dino, SKC (SW) (USN) (Retired). He served aboard the aircraft carrier U.S.S. She taught in the Dunoon schools for 18 months. I remember A.J. Moira is fascinated by the history ceramics and has travelled extensively to research traditional pottery techniques. We been hounding the Soviet helo-carrier Leningrad on their ASW exercises. Thank. I remember you. Scotland named cruise destination of the year! The memorial sits on a relatively exposed point of land, which is subject to sea erosion, meaning that the monument is in danger of being lost if the site is note maintained. Holy Loch: The Scottish American Connection Kindle Edition by Frank L Gosselin (Author) Format: Kindle Edition 19 ratings See all formats and editions Kindle $5.99 Read with Our Free App Hardcover $40.54 1 Used from $44.80 11 New from $40.54 Explore VA life insurance options for Veterans, service members, and families. Thanks for writing. Over a 30 year span, Los Alamos completed over From 1991 to 2005 he was a producer and on-air host of "Inside Government," a public affairs interview radio program that aired Sundays on WPEN AM and WMGK FM in the Philadelphia area. I know im clutching at straws, but I know my sisters are looking for me, we just keep missing each other.If anyone knows of any americans doing this please can u help me. We used the Simon Lake as a tender. Lot of good memories about Danoon and Glasgow was a plank owner on Hunley left as an EM 2, Al,Thanks for writing and thanks for your service.Paul, Mike, I think I served with you on the Natick. My wife and I loved Dunoon. Holy Loch, near Dunoon, Argyll, Scotland A Brief History of Site One: In the autumn of 1959 the US Government presented the problem of providing forward servicing facilities for the first SSBN Squadron in the U.K. Studies were made of all the suitable places to base a refit facility and it was decided in July 1960 that Holy Loch should be the site. Natick 760 is now in Boston Naval Shipyard. Enjoy the area and the people. - Helensburgh set to swell under wave of 1.3bn Navy expansion - Helensburgh Advertiser. Good to hear from another old shipmate from Holy Loch. Port stops in Scotland X2, Norway, Denmark, Germany, EnglandX2, Portugal, Spain X4, Azores X2 Key West was home. In the 23 years I did in the Navy, the 5 years I did in Holy Loch were the best. I was on the Holland 76-77 and loved it. RM E139G0 - Feb. 29, 2012 - POLARIS SUBMARINE ARRIVES IN HOLY LOCH The 6700-ton American Polaris submarine ''PATRICK HENRY'' arrived in the RM BE3YDY - Looking north up towards Holy Loch from Kirn, Argyl and Bute, Scotland. I served aboard The USS Sam Houston SSBN 609 and did 4 patrols out of Holy Loch (Simon Lake then the tender)1967-1969. The plot was largely based on the Iranian Embassy Siege of 1980, in which the SAS stormed the building to rescue the hostages being held there. March 30, 2015, our shipmate and friend, Glenn Francis Fleming, departed on Eternal Patrol in Charleston SC. At Sandbank, the Robertson's Yard built famous wooden 12- and 15 . Dear Paul, I visited Dunoon Scotland in the summer of 1977. Others were Faslane, the channel between Largs and Cumbrae, Rosneath Bay, and Rothesay Bay. Unfortunately he passed away after a short illness on the 8th of January 2014. try{window.CloudFlare||function(){var a=window.document,b=a.createElement('script'),a=a.getElementsByTagName('script')[0];window.CloudFlare=[];b.type='text/javascript';b.async=!0;b.src='//ajax.cloudflare.com/cdn-cgi/nexp/cloudflare.js';a.parentNode.insertBefore(b,a)}(),CloudFlare.push(function(a){a(['cloudflare/badge'])})}catch(e$$5){try{console.error('CloudFlare badge code could not be loaded. Lazaretto Point lies on the southwest shore of the Holy Loch, and lies between Ardnadam to the west, and Sandbank to the east. )Thanks for checking in.Paul. The entrance lies on the west coast of the Firth of Clyde, marked by Strone Point to the north, and Hunter's Quay to the south. Had the fortune of sneaking past a Navy Sentry in Norfolk after the Hunley was decommissioned, got on the ship with a flashlight and found the old Mardet berthing area. Negotiations with the British Government began as early as March 1959 when President Dwight D. Eisenhower mentioned the need to British Prime Minister Harold Macmillan at a meeting at Camp David. In either event any benefit to Anglo-American relations would be largely lost., A final missive sent on 22 February 1968 confirms that the MoD was forced to make a humiliating U-turn on the proposed royal visit, As noted above, the first US ship arrived in the Holy Loch on March 3, 1961, making 2011 the 50th anniversary of the event, and the event was marked by an article in the Dunoonn Observer online. [^50 years since US Navy arrival Retrieved March 05, 2011.^]. He has written extensively about organized crime, cybercrime, street crime, white collar crime, crime fiction, crime prevention, espionage and terrorism. Leslie Williams, sisterinlaw of John P. Shannon USN. Here the sons of adversity meet the children of calamity, and here the children of calamity meet the offspring of sin.Herman Melville (18191891), People run away from the name subsidy. The name of the Holy Loch has a number of stories related to its creation, ranging from pre-Christian tales of Sun or Sun-god worship in the area (which has a number standing stones), through Saint Mungo (also known as St Kentigern, patron saint and founder of Glasgow) in the 6th century and the story of a ship being lost in the loch while carry soil from the holy land to be laid under Glasgow Cathedral (Saint Mungo was buried on the site in AD 612), to Saint Munn in the 10th century, who landed there from Ireland. They demand that a nuclear weapon be fired at the submarine base on the Holy Loch, or they will kill all the hostages and themselves. Ah, the good old days! The Russians knew we were their and feared our Submarine Force and those who supported it. Did four refits on boats out of Comsubron 14. In May 1962, the US Navy arranged for the old Ardnadam Hotel to be converted into an enlisted mens' club, commissary and exchange. We were to I was on the U.S.S. The Association wants to remember one of the most loyal members and his wife. 1975-77. SE4-EP140 Tango Alpha Lima: Connecticut State Trooper . Paul Davis' crime fiction appears in American Crime Magazine. December 30, 2022 at 10:30 a.m. at . A service will be held on Monday, August 23, 2021 at 2PM at First Baptist Church, 414 Main Street, West Point, VA, 23181. Agreement for the use of Holy Loch was reached near the end of 1960 and the arrival of the first tender, USS Proteus (AS-19) scheduled for December. The loch is still there, of course, but there are no U.S. Navy ships or crafts left.I'd like to return to Holy Loch and Scotland with my wife, who has never been there, and see the loch and the area.Thanks for writing, and thank you for your service as well - as a Navy wife, you also served.Paul, I was afraid that would be the case. Holy Loch was by far the best duty in my short career (4 years). Visited Anselmo's and talked with the new owner who purchased the business from Anselmo's daughter about 4 years ago. Hi there,Im a local to Dunoon,I live in Kirn,Just across the road from Dunoon Academy secondarily school,Your not missing much.The place has never recovered from the US Navy leaving,slowly declining each year.Woolworths closed about 5 years ago,& the tobacco shop across the road from Woolworths closed about 2 years ago,well the tobacco side of it,isnt there anymore,but the shop still sells the cool little trinkets etc(ie candy jars)The Calmac ferry service has even stopped to Dunoon. s.parentNode.insertBefore(p, s); The 1982 film Who Dares Wins (motto of the Special Air Service [SAS]), starring Lewis Collins, features the Holy Loch as the intended target of a militant anti-nuclear group which takes over the residence of the American ambassador. And if you missed the last shuttle you're deep doodoo as you had to sleep in the shed where the MP stood guard. google_ad_client = 'pub-9912973797081854'; I was at Holy Loch aboard the Will Rogers and the George Marshall. My oldest son was born there. google_ad_format = '120x60_as_rimg'; Nominations were considered by a panel of industry executives, Seatrade Insider's global editorial team, cruise consultants, analysts and association experts from around the world. Paul. Happy days. I've tried fish & chips here and there since my Scotland tour, but they have not been the same.Anonymous, I too miss Scotland and it was a fine place to be stationed, even if the winter weather was awful.I miss the place, the people, and I even miss the Navy (Ha).Paul. During World War II, the loch was used a submarine base. Looking back, it was the "primo" duty station of my career; I just didn't realize it at the time. The Submarine Tender USS Proteus (AS 19) arrived on 3 March 1961. NAVSUPPACT ultimately managed 42 facilities and leased 342 housing units for Navy personnel and their dependents. on the Hunley AS31 in 1987, our bestman crossdecked to the Simon Lake and years later we ended up on the John.S.McCain in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, who do we run into walking down the street, but our bestman lol small world. It was the home base of Submarine Squadron (SUBRON) 14, part of Submarine Force, U.S. Atlantic Fleet. Subscribe to this Obituary Your Email Address (Required) Tribute Wall In autumn 1959, the US Government had to provide forward servicing facilities for the first SSBN squadron to be based in the UK, and studies were carried out to determine the most suitable location for such a refit facility, leading to the final selection of the Holy Loch in July 1960. I was there when Proteus came in to the Loch. Also in 1942, a new unit, the Royal Marine Boom Patrol Detachment, sought volunteers for a hazardous mission. However, Sir Paul Gore-Booth, the head of the diplomatic service, rejected the proposal, fearing that it could generate enormous controversy and potentially put the Queen Mother at risk. We may have passed each other in the street sometime and not given each other a look. Holy Loch is nestled in the Scottish Highlands a setting of verdant, rolling hills, picturesque Lochs, parks, kilts and tamoshanters. PLAYED POOL AT BERT'S. My Dad was stationed there from 1972 thru 1974. The first two were moored in the Holy Loch, with the the third lying in the Kyles of Bute, near Rothesay. Unlike a more conventional squadron, a submarine squadron commander and his staff always remain in home port, and are responsible only for the training, equipping and administering of the ships under its umbrella. On housing, the MoD and the council have already begun to work with the private and social housing sectors to develop options for choice in the housing market. Speaking to my old Navy pal brought back some good memories. p.src = '//rum-static.pingdom.net/prum.min.js'; My family They often took me to their home for a Scottish dinner. TWS is the largest online community of Veterans existing today and is a powerful Veteran locator. var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0] Paul, I served there on Hunley from when she first arrived and left her in late 63 for separation. Site The workload was tough but when I could get away, I'd head to Stirling. I served on board USS HOLLAND AS-32 from 1974 to 1977 I was involved in accident one day Dr. sent me in town for an MRI can anyone one remember the name of base hospital? Based on the visitors' opinions, waiters offer delicious beer, gin or whiskey. I was a ping jocky aboard the USS Hartley, a destroyer escort. Our association provides emergency assistance referrals. November 1, 2020 A small group of Scots and Americans are announcing the launch of a website to tell the story of the American years. My father, CPO Clay Bailey set up the base services at the old Ardnadam Hotel in Sandbank in '61. Really loved the warmth of the Scottish People, really enjoy the Highland games as well! The pub was "PJ's' that everyone gathered with all the fine Dunoon ladies. The number of submarines supported by SUBRON-14 varied over the years, however an indication of the scale of the operation can be seen in the number of patrols carried out. Mary T. Loch. Are you contact with AJ? Rumours circulated that the Depot Ship had to be moved because she was moored on top of a mountain of discarded beer cans! I was aboard the Saugus in 1975, but I don't recall your name. In 1992, the base was dee. Phone. Paul, thanks for sharing and this story sure has legs!!! On the USS canopus was in 2nd division took the canopus back to Charleston enjoyed. Since GST was granted SCIO (Scottish Charitable Incorporated Organisation) status on 27th June 2019, the board of trustees and project coordinator have worked hard to fulfil their role within the community. If you served in Submarine Refit Site One Holy Loch, Scotland, Join TWS for free to reconnect with service friends. Thanks for writing and letting us knowPaul, Hi Paul, great article. Leslie,No, I don't know the people mentioned above. My dad was stationed on the USS Hunley AS-31 in 83 through 85, and as a result, I was lucky enough to have been born in a beautiful city. Most of them had crumpled righthand front fenders (wings), the roads here were narrow, often single carriageway, and in an emergency the Americans pulled to the right with the inevitable consequence. From 1961--1992, it was used as a US Polaris nuclear submarine base. Box 2865, Ewa Beach, Hawaii 96706 Life insurance. About Moira & Holy Loch Pottery Moira Ferguson has taught and made pottery for over forty years. I served aboard the Saugus 1966-67. I too was there in 1978 on board the USS Holland (AS-32). [CDATA[ google_ad_channel = ''; During the Black Death of the 14th century, Venice established the first formal system of quarantine, requiring ships to lay at anchor for 40 days before landing. Further information will be posted here shortly, including hotel reservation information and how to register for the reunion. I used to pass through Dunoon all the time taking the car ferry over from Gourock on the way to Tighnabruaich. Hi, I served onboard the Holland from late 76 through 82,then crossdecked to the Hunley until Spring of 83. submarines being supported by the Squadron varied over the years, and the measure I took Highland dance lessons. FAQs | FIND A POST | TERMS OF USE | PRIVACY POLICY Copyright AMVETS National Headquarters. I served with some really good folks. I'd like to take my wife to Scotland and show her all of the places I lived and visited. In 1961, Dunoon found itself suddenly transformed from a slightly rundown seaside resort to a garrison town. As a Veterans association we are committed to, and stress the importance of upholding and defending the Constitution of the United States of America and the American Flag; and promoting understanding, appreciation and respect for the sacrifices and commitment given to the United States of America by the American Veteran, in general, and the . Site One refit. Short visit. Three days later, the detachment, with the exception of a 60-man rear echelon boarded the USNS GORDON, sailed from the Holy Loch and headed for home. He enlisted in the Navy in 1959 and retired in 1985. There are quite a few of us that remained here and in 2002 we formed the Holy Loch American Veterans Association. Take care and I appreciate your article. //-->, "Stop Spam Harvesters, Join Project Honey Pot", //
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